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Re: Y kant Johnny reed?
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Grolsh Kammasutra
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My current school system has been socialized by NCLB. I dont think public schools are always worse then private schools, it depends on where you live. I went to a college prep private catholic HS, yet schools in rich areas (around the country) are surpassing the testing levels of my school and are public schools. In AZ it may have been the best school and probably is the best school but certainly being the best in AZ with a ranking in the bottom 5 overall at a state level isn't that great a claim.
No one wins with an always claim, because one shot and your arguement is toast. Government schools can be better then private schools. I still fail to see where my welfare analogy was countered. If you put 100 kids in a class does that make it a better class? My college does similar to keep funding and acreditation. The first 2 years at ASU it is commonplace to be in a classroom with 100-250 students, they weed the determined out in this method, junior and senior year it is very uncommon to find a class with more then 20.
It is not the best method to say X high school rocks and all of a sudden has 10000 more students then it can handle, this is the peverse capitalism in affect, were greed=good. More attention needs to be paid to trade schools as Dano has suggested, all kids are not cut out for college, and shoving a bunch more into a school that is succeding will not help the end result. Vochers are not an end policy, they have some merit to viability but seriously just because every parent imagines their child going to college does not make them all college students and a school nor a student should be made to suck up what appears to be a lack of foresight on your part.
Foreign school systems pre college spank ours regularly and the main reason is they weed out according to ability students who cannot preform at expected levels and find trade schools for them to attend. I am still having problems with so many of you capitalists are seeking socialist reform. Vouchers are a sheep that smells socialist yet appears to be a capitalist wolf, it is not. Peter had as much success as you will with crying this is THE solution.
The wierd strange thing to me is why does the military have such a successful model in turning out productive members of our society? Maybe that is what we should be looking into. Not the coddling oh you win and get a trophy because you were on the team or your parents wanted you to go to college attitutde. Seriously black,white, yellow, what have you the military seems to be a better educational background for so many who would have failed in our society without it. Could it really be that structure, enforcement, and ownership of your own actions prove that valuable? Discipline>test scores OMG!!! have I found the Rosetta Stone?!?!
Sheesh I cannot believe I am trying to teach conservative values to so many who tout themselves as conservatives. The basis for education is not all of you must be equal it is all of you must work hard or fail. If you lose the football game no fing trophy you are a loser, do better next time. It is like education discussions come around and yall become my aposite when I know you want what I want. Teach the kids who can how to win, teach the kids who cant how to win, my fing plumber still makes more then I do sure it is a shitty job but identify those who will be successful at it and let them succed, dont force them to be standardized and fail at college, and I fail to see the gain in making the study of music or art a fail, really do we succed when all we have in our soiceity as Spartans? They didnt and became an amusement park edition for other successful societies when they would torture one of their youth to death just to see how he would not react to the pain as he was a Spartan and immune to pain by his upbringing. You are allowing no middle ground and the youth need Discipline combined with Compasion. I will admit I am admiring the Compasion that those who I would normally opose are showing our youth but I am very very disconcerted by the lack of structure and DISCIPLINE.
The key words to me here is not vouchers or NCLB it is fuck up and principal spanks your ass, fuck up and fail out, instead you are promoting a coddling past what I am comfortable with, your kid sucks at schools so we need to send him to a better one? Seriously conservative much? Lets add back in some you fail and corpreal punishment, or at least do some goddamn pushups you stain and see were that gets us, and stop trying to spend government money to pay for vouchers poor people cant afford to drag down rich peoples kids attempt at an education.
It works for the military when X poor kid is told damn wrong answer give me 20. Why cannot it be the answer to our schools?
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